and, you know, a year ago on this show, i must admit, peggy and i wrestling together and peggy was making the argument he is biting off far too much and can't do all these things. no, have you do all these things. i turned out to be wrong. they did overreach and did bite off more than they could chew. >> i think we live in a time of collapsed and collapsing institutions. i think people have less faith in the great institutions than jfk's day and its eisenhower's they had faith in. i think that the obama -- one of the obama administration mistakes has been to not understand they were governing and taking power in a time of collapsed instigss and a time when people were not trusting the governor. when you know the people are leery and you try to do huge things, as we discussed some time back, that are also controversial things and don't have a lot of built-in support, you are looking for trouble. they looked for trouble. they got trouble. >> but part of it is also did they miss the ideological moment? >> the presidency has been delegitimized. look back over the past three presidents. bill c